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in care york the situation there remains very, very tense after the deadly attack in libya president obama is vowing to find the killer there. the u.s. ambassador, chris stevens died tuesday night after a mob stormed the consulate in benghazi. the violence spreading not only in cairo, you can see live pictures from egypt. spreading in the region and to a certain degree as well. we'll stay on top of the. that's it for us, thank you very much for watching, "ac 360" starts right now. >>> good evening, everyone. breaking news tonight. american warships and u.s. marines on the move, drones airborne. and a running battle on the streets of cairo between police and protesters outside and near the u.s. embassy and at a mosque in tahrir square. these are live pictures. lake new developments in the wake of the siege there yesterday and the attack on the u.s. consulate that left four americans dead, including j. christopher stevens, the ambassador to libya who's being remembered as a dedicated and talented advocate for this country overseas. it is hard to overstate the significance of what happened la
in care york the situation there remains very, very tense after the deadly attack in libya president obama is vowing to find the killer there. the u.s. ambassador, chris stevens died tuesday night after a mob stormed the consulate in benghazi. the violence spreading not only in cairo, you can see live pictures from egypt. spreading in the region and to a certain degree as well. we'll stay on top of the. that's it for us, thank you very much for watching, "ac 360" starts right now....
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. >> well, later today after that speech on the cbs evening news, president obama also had sharp words for mitt romney, who's come under fire from democrats and some republicans for his statements lashing out at the obama administration's response to the attacks in benghazi and cairo. statements that whatever you believe about american foreign policy are simply not factual. we'll get to the battle over that in a moment. first we do want to focus on the attacks themselves, what happened last night and what is happening right now with the latest information we have. again, you're looking at live pictures now from cairo. breaking news both in libya and cairo to tell you about. yesterday's all-out assault on the american embassy may be over but the fighting around it continues tonight in cairo. the compound now ringed with egyptian security forces who are reportedly using tear gas and about 500 protesters gathering at a mosque in nearby tahrir square. those are the images you're seeing. we're also learning more details, pretty bizarre stuff, about that video that seems to have lit a powder
. >> well, later today after that speech on the cbs evening news, president obama also had sharp words for mitt romney, who's come under fire from democrats and some republicans for his statements lashing out at the obama administration's response to the attacks in benghazi and cairo. statements that whatever you believe about american foreign policy are simply not factual. we'll get to the battle over that in a moment. first we do want to focus on the attacks themselves, what happened...
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romney's suggestion was the statement was the obama statement. the white house says it wasn't. a number of tweets were sent by the cairo embassy and according to a number of current and former service workers, the white house does not routinely vet tweets sent out by embassies. the white house disavowed the statement after it had been september. mr. romney said it was a response. it came out before the rioting and long before the killing in tripoli. it was apparently an attempt by embassy staff to head off -- excuse me in benghazi. it was apparently an attempt by embassy staff to head off what you see happening here, to diffuse the situation before it got ugly and there was an attack on the embassy in cairo, not to apologize after it did. you can agree or disagree with what the embassy did under pressure, whether their statement was appropriate. you could say it should have said nothing or defended the freedom of these filmmakers to make that inflammatory video. what you can't do is say that the embassy statement came after a particular event when in fact it came before that ev
romney's suggestion was the statement was the obama statement. the white house says it wasn't. a number of tweets were sent by the cairo embassy and according to a number of current and former service workers, the white house does not routinely vet tweets sent out by embassies. the white house disavowed the statement after it had been september. mr. romney said it was a response. it came out before the rioting and long before the killing in tripoli. it was apparently an attempt by embassy staff...
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are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn over these responsibilities to them, and leave. now how can we train and work with these people if so many them are killing americans we can't even train and operate with them? by that policy, it has been an abject failure. >> we'll talk more with senator mccain about domestic issues a bit later in the program. first, bob baer and fran townsend. fran, served as a member of the cia external advisory committee, and last month visited libya with her employer, mccannkancan forbes. he said that there were security concerns. >> we had a long conversat
are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn...
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what you see coming from president obama and the obama administration is what they call dedemitude in the islamic world. when you look at the speech in turkey and the bow to the saudi king and the interaction there and the speech at the university of cairo, they see weakness and they see a policy of appeasement. the hood head has a plan for the united states of america and also north america. it is called the explanatory memorandum, it was uncovered in virginia in an fbi raid in 1991. it is very clear what their intent and purpose is and when you read their charter, this is a group that is very closely tied to terrorism and all of these subsidiary groups really have the muslim brotherhood as the grandfather organization, establish in the 1920s. >> sean: it seeps to me, congressman, we are at a tipping point. anti-american sentiment. anti-american violence is growing. we have a president -- i don't know -- i don't think appeasement is the right word as much as he is weak. and the people in the middle-east, all they know is strength. and that strength needs to be backed up by a commitme
what you see coming from president obama and the obama administration is what they call dedemitude in the islamic world. when you look at the speech in turkey and the bow to the saudi king and the interaction there and the speech at the university of cairo, they see weakness and they see a policy of appeasement. the hood head has a plan for the united states of america and also north america. it is called the explanatory memorandum, it was uncovered in virginia in an fbi raid in 1991. it is...
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this afternoon, in response to an obama attack on mr. romney's israel remarks, romney campaign spokesman ryan williams sent an e-mail saying this, today, obama campaign spokesperson ben labolt attacked mitt romney on a debunked "mother jones" tape. a debunked "mother jones" tape. remember that. he is referring to the obama's spokesman calling him out for saying this. >> how do you think the palestinian problem would be solved? what are you going to do about this? >> i look at the palestinians not wanting to sea peace over political purposes. we live with that in china and taiwan. all right? we have a potentially volatile situation but we sort of live with it and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately somehow, something will happen and resolve it. >> this afternoon, ryan williams, the romney spokesman deliberately truncated that clip to leave out the part that he said that the palestinians might come around. he writes, politico reported that mother jones video was selectively edited to give a false impression about mitt
this afternoon, in response to an obama attack on mr. romney's israel remarks, romney campaign spokesman ryan williams sent an e-mail saying this, today, obama campaign spokesperson ben labolt attacked mitt romney on a debunked "mother jones" tape. a debunked "mother jones" tape. remember that. he is referring to the obama's spokesman calling him out for saying this. >> how do you think the palestinian problem would be solved? what are you going to do about this?...
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they view president obama as somebody they trust. our standing in the world is much stronger so it charge of weakness is really quite baseless. >> schieffer: do you think mitt romney spoke inappropriately when he criticized and issued a statement so early in this turmoil? >> bob, i think you know, in my role, i'm not going to jump into politics and make those judgments. that's for the american people to decide. >> schieffer: madam ambassador thank you for being with us. >> thank you very much. >> schieffer: and joining us now for his take on all this, the ranking republican on the senate armed services committee, john mccain. senator, you've got to help me out here. the president of libya says that this was something that had been in the works for two months, this attack. he blames it on al qaeda. susan rice says that the state department thinks it is some sort of a spontaneous event. what do you make of it? >> most people don't bring rocket-propelled grenades and heavy weapons to a demonstration. that was an act of terror, and for a
they view president obama as somebody they trust. our standing in the world is much stronger so it charge of weakness is really quite baseless. >> schieffer: do you think mitt romney spoke inappropriately when he criticized and issued a statement so early in this turmoil? >> bob, i think you know, in my role, i'm not going to jump into politics and make those judgments. that's for the american people to decide. >> schieffer: madam ambassador thank you for being with us....
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president obama has tough new words about the attack. we'll get the latest in a moment. >>> also this half-hour, a different kind of security breach at kennedy airport. as 100,000 mini bottles of booze, they're gone. they're missing. >> 100,000 of the little bottles? >> yeah, now airport workers right there they're under arrest. >> then now, you see it now you don't. incredible shrinking product. giving you less for your dollar. and what we are going to tell you about saving at the supermarket. >> we shared this yesterday. a lot of you weighed in on facebook. you have some great money saving tips. one took me by surprise. we will share it. >> i look forward to that. >>> later, it turns out, heidi klum is getting cozy with the help. new revelations about her divorce and relationship with her bodyguard in "the skinny." she divulged that on katie's new show. >> all right, let's get right to it. >>> first off, a u.s. destroyer off the coast of libya. a second is on the way in response to that deadly attack on americans. an elite group of mar
president obama has tough new words about the attack. we'll get the latest in a moment. >>> also this half-hour, a different kind of security breach at kennedy airport. as 100,000 mini bottles of booze, they're gone. they're missing. >> 100,000 of the little bottles? >> yeah, now airport workers right there they're under arrest. >> then now, you see it now you don't. incredible shrinking product. giving you less for your dollar. and what we are going to tell you about...
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take a look. >> the obama campaign immediate pounced. "it is shocking that a candidate for president of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy dancers half american people view themselves as victims entitled to handout and are unwilling to take personal responsibility to their lives it is hard to serve as president for all americans when you disdainfully written you have half the nation." the romney campaign put out this innocuous statement from communications director. "mitt romney wants to help all americans struggling in the obama economy. as the gaffe go of nor made clear all year are he is concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six americans in poverty and the 23 million americans who are struggling to find work. pir's plan control 12y5i9s million new jobs in four years, grows the economy and moves americans off of government dependency and into jobs." late night for
take a look. >> the obama campaign immediate pounced. "it is shocking that a candidate for president of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy dancers half american people view themselves as victims entitled to handout and are unwilling to take personal responsibility to their lives it is hard to serve as president for all americans when you disdainfully written you have half the nation." the romney campaign put out this innocuous...
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we've got -- here's the obama machines -- that's the only one. the complexities of how the deals get worked out in various places -- >> greg and steve made this point today, romney is trying to appeal to some sort of fick shus shus -- figment of the base's imagination that the somehow is an appeaser and weak on national security. that is -- i don't think that's where the middle of this country is at but this line of attack that the president has been an apologist will win over swing voters, to the point of the kitchen sink -- >> it's been my view throughout this campaign that governor romney should never talk about foreign policy, only time they criticize president obama on foreign policy, in the lead should be this is the the that killed osama bin laden. the president made one of the strongest places in his speech in tampa, was the place where he capitalized on romney having not mentioned -- >> charlotte. >> i'm sorry, having not mentioned the -- our soldiers who were still in afghanistan. he mocked president -- mocked governor romney for that.
we've got -- here's the obama machines -- that's the only one. the complexities of how the deals get worked out in various places -- >> greg and steve made this point today, romney is trying to appeal to some sort of fick shus shus -- figment of the base's imagination that the somehow is an appeaser and weak on national security. that is -- i don't think that's where the middle of this country is at but this line of attack that the president has been an apologist will win over swing...
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it details the relationship between the obama administration and the supreme court. at nine eastern, the most recent "after words" interview, saucer eisenberg talks about the political campaign. his book is the victory lap. the secret science of winning campaigns. .. but, maybe i should start by orienting people to what the school book is. it's part of a series that oxford publishes called a very short introduction and they are short, they have about 300 titles, and they asked me to do a supreme court title. i guess about three years ago and the book cannot this spring. it came out on the eve of the health care decision. so, who knew three years ago that we would be faced with a supreme court dealing with the most closely watched and maybe one of the most contentious case in many many years, and i would be happy -- the book doesn't say anything about the health care case, so in the q&a, i would be happy to share some conversations about that with you. but i thought i would step back and give a little bit of my take on how the court has gotten to where it is, not so m
it details the relationship between the obama administration and the supreme court. at nine eastern, the most recent "after words" interview, saucer eisenberg talks about the political campaign. his book is the victory lap. the secret science of winning campaigns. .. but, maybe i should start by orienting people to what the school book is. it's part of a series that oxford publishes called a very short introduction and they are short, they have about 300 titles, and they asked me to...
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within minutes president obama, vice president biden, and secretary of state hillary clinton along with leon panetta will attend a ceremony at andrews air force base to mark the return of the bodies of the four americans killed in libya. this is a picture of the plane that brought the bodies back to the united states. back to their families. both the president and secretary of state will speak at the ceremonies and family members will be present. u.s. ambassadors chris stevens, foreign service information management officer sean smith. and former navy seal tyrone jones and glen doerty were providing security for ambassador smith were all killed in tuesday's attack in benghazi, libya. meantime angry protests spread today throughout the muslim world including jerusalem and the west bank along gaza. u.n. peacekeepers were also attacked by protesters. no casualties reported. in tunisia protesters stormed the u.s. embassy setting fires and battling with tunisian security forces. two people were killed. another 29 injured. in all protests broke out today in at least 17 nations from north afri
within minutes president obama, vice president biden, and secretary of state hillary clinton along with leon panetta will attend a ceremony at andrews air force base to mark the return of the bodies of the four americans killed in libya. this is a picture of the plane that brought the bodies back to the united states. back to their families. both the president and secretary of state will speak at the ceremonies and family members will be present. u.s. ambassadors chris stevens, foreign service...
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and it's a day of shame for the obama administration. we are a place of freedom, here and around the world, and we should stand up and defend freedom wherever it is under attack. >> a dark day, a day of shame, he said. mr. romney made those remarks at about 2:00 in the afternoon on may 3rd. and they drew an almost immediate rebuke from even staunch conservatives, like, for example, bill kristol, that very same afternoon. >> i mean, i'm happy to be critical of the obama administration, as anyone is, but i think this is an awfully fast-moving story, and if i was advising governor romney, i would say, you don't need to get in the middle of this story. to inject yourself in the middle of it, when there were all kinds of negotiations going on, and a fast-moving story, i think it's foolish. there's no reason to inject yourself in and say it's a day of shame for the obama administration. hillary clinton's waking up right now. let's see if she can pull this off in the next 12 hours or not. >> turns out secretary clinton was able to pull it off.
and it's a day of shame for the obama administration. we are a place of freedom, here and around the world, and we should stand up and defend freedom wherever it is under attack. >> a dark day, a day of shame, he said. mr. romney made those remarks at about 2:00 in the afternoon on may 3rd. and they drew an almost immediate rebuke from even staunch conservatives, like, for example, bill kristol, that very same afternoon. >> i mean, i'm happy to be critical of the obama...
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to barack obama. but face it, president obama already has a lead on those issues. he's been out on the campaign trail saying -- he still has the pull pit and the upper hand on this issue. mitt romney did himself no good-bye jumping the gun. i'm quiting peggy noonan who had been a cheer leader of mitt romney in many aspects. >> this was not a gaffe in any sense. you might want to call the russia thing a gaffe, except there's no indication that romney didn't fully believe it. this was planned, this was staged, this was the campaign saying this is what we must do today. >> no, no. i mean, they had hours and hours to think about this. remember, there was a supposed to be a partisan thing for 9/11. they actually lifted the embargo to get ahead of the news cycle. they were very much aware of what they were doing. the statement was signed off by romney himself according to the new york times. they knew what was happening and if it were a gaffe they would have backtracked today. they said we stand by it and c
to barack obama. but face it, president obama already has a lead on those issues. he's been out on the campaign trail saying -- he still has the pull pit and the upper hand on this issue. mitt romney did himself no good-bye jumping the gun. i'm quiting peggy noonan who had been a cheer leader of mitt romney in many aspects. >> this was not a gaffe in any sense. you might want to call the russia thing a gaffe, except there's no indication that romney didn't fully believe it. this was...
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ben, obviously they say obama is guilty, obama is guilty, obama is guilty. tell bus that man and some of the others who were expressing such anger. >> reporter: well many of the people i spoke with had no idea that the u.s. government has come out and expressed its disgust with this video clip that appeared on youtube, and there seems to be an unawareness about the fact that the united states government does not control every single thing that appears on the internet. so, seems to be one of the problems here is that there's just a lack of understanding of how the media operates in the united states and that the act of one individual is not the act of the government. now, one of themain concerns here among egyptians, particularly coptic christian egyptians is that there could be a backlash against them as a result of the act of this one, rather this film produced by this one man in the united states. >> yes. we're going to have much more on the coptic christian angle. i talked to some today. they were very afraid of what might happen. ben, before we let you g
ben, obviously they say obama is guilty, obama is guilty, obama is guilty. tell bus that man and some of the others who were expressing such anger. >> reporter: well many of the people i spoke with had no idea that the u.s. government has come out and expressed its disgust with this video clip that appeared on youtube, and there seems to be an unawareness about the fact that the united states government does not control every single thing that appears on the internet. so, seems to be one...
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netanyahu is setting obama up. glad obama is not meeting with him. do you think they're so stupid not have a meeting with netanyahu if they thought they'd make progress? netanyahu wants this meeting for his own politics. i don't think you should give him that. >> dana: president obama should want it for his politics. >> bob: wrong. >> eric: you can still meet with president obama and not draw a red line. >> bob: they meet on the phone, right? >> dana: only after public pressure. >> eric: sit down and have a meeting. he may want to talk about redlines. meet with the number within ally on the planet? number one? >> bob: it's a public role about iran and they have been trying to do it for six months. not a good idea. >> brian: you just can't duck a prime minister in your own country. >> bob: yeah, you can. >> brian: you know who is at the warwick hotel? ahmadinejad. we don't just talk to our friends, we talk to the enemies. why not go to the warwick hotel. it's old fashioned -- >> dana: that would be really -- >> brian: say listen, we're not friends and
netanyahu is setting obama up. glad obama is not meeting with him. do you think they're so stupid not have a meeting with netanyahu if they thought they'd make progress? netanyahu wants this meeting for his own politics. i don't think you should give him that. >> dana: president obama should want it for his politics. >> bob: wrong. >> eric: you can still meet with president obama and not draw a red line. >> bob: they meet on the phone, right? >> dana: only after...
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everyone assumed that obama would because he had said as much. and when the time came, he looked at it and clearly his political people said to him, you're raising so much more money than mccain, why would you go into that system and limit your spending? so don't go into the system. >>> we've made the decision not to participate in the public financing system for the general election. this means we'll be forgoing more than $80 million in public funds during the final months of this election. it's not an easy decision, and especially because i support a robust system of public financing of elections. >>> and i think that was a practical, political decision, but contrary to everything he had said about the value of public financing. and what we're now learning is, once that cat is out of the bag, it's really hard to put it back in. >> and so we're in a radically different place than we were four years ago. individuals now can give unlimited amounts and corporations to these super pacs. if they give to the allied (c) (4) social welfare group, no one
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only 44% in favor of obama in his birth state. if romney doesn't find that troubling, they may find the wisconsin poll also troubling. the marquette law shows that in the state of his running mate paul ryan, 54% would favor romney. that's got to -- i mean, i almost feel like there had to be a holding of breath in the romney campaign with these numbers. >> yeah, i think romney's in deep trouble in michigan and wisconsin. we'll see if paul ryan can really help him in wisconsin. neither campaign, neither the romney campaign nor the obama campaign directly are spending a lot of money -- they're not spending a lot of money in either state. i think they both sense that wisconsin and michigan will probably go democratic this time. so the super packs are spending money in michigan and wisconsin. the pro-republican super packs. i think the romney campaign, they're spending some money in wisconsin, though not a whole lot. but michigan, given the president's ability to save the auto industry, gm, chrysler in particular, it looks like michiga
only 44% in favor of obama in his birth state. if romney doesn't find that troubling, they may find the wisconsin poll also troubling. the marquette law shows that in the state of his running mate paul ryan, 54% would favor romney. that's got to -- i mean, i almost feel like there had to be a holding of breath in the romney campaign with these numbers. >> yeah, i think romney's in deep trouble in michigan and wisconsin. we'll see if paul ryan can really help him in wisconsin. neither...
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> that's president obama now heading back from andrews air force base where he and secretary of state hillary clinton just attended the somber transfer of remains ceremony for u.s. ambassador chris stevens and the three other americans killed this week in libya. ♪ >> we welcome home for the final time, ambassador chris stevens, mr. sean smith, mr. glen doherty and mr. tyrone woods. >> to the families of our fallen colleagues, i offer our most heartfelt condolences and deepest gratitude. >> they didn't simply embrace the american ideal, they lived it. they embodied it. the courage. the hope. and yes, the idealism. that fundamental american belief that we can leave this world a little better than before. that's who they were. and that's who we are. >> four men are now under arrest for tuesday's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate. we'll get to what's happening in the middle east in a minute. first let's bring in former ambassador mark ginsberg who knew ambassador stevens we know the intelligence community is very small, so we're sorry for your life. >> thank you. the fact of
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> that's president obama now heading back from andrews air force base where he and secretary of state hillary clinton just attended the somber transfer of remains ceremony for u.s. ambassador chris stevens and the three other americans killed this week in libya. ♪ >> we welcome home for the final time, ambassador chris stevens, mr. sean smith, mr. glen doherty and mr. tyrone woods. >> to the families of our fallen colleagues, i offer our most heartfelt...
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president obama yesterday telling the u.n. assembly that america will get to the bottom of the murders of chris stevens and the others. >> the attack on civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. there should be no doubt we will be relentless tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. bill: how possible is that while order in libya is still unknown? we want to begin our coverage now. greg palkot streaming live out of tripoli. what is the latest on this militia crackdown there, greg? >> reporter: bill, martha, we're getting mixed signals about that. we were just talking to our contact in benghazi. he said one of the key militias in that city is it falling into line with the government. we've been out and about here in tripoli. we visited one compound where militias were driven out by libyan security forces but there are new protests planned for here and in benghazi on friday. a sign maybe the folks here aren't too sure what is going on with the militias. amid new concerns some of their weapons are going into th
president obama yesterday telling the u.n. assembly that america will get to the bottom of the murders of chris stevens and the others. >> the attack on civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. there should be no doubt we will be relentless tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. bill: how possible is that while order in libya is still unknown? we want to begin our coverage now. greg palkot streaming live out of tripoli. what is the latest on this militia crackdown...
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hillary clinton and president obama promised swift action. >> today we mourn four more americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> the friendship between our countries born out of shared struggle will not be another casualty of this attack. a free and stable libya is still in america's interest and security. and we will not turn our back on that. >> meanwhile, mitt romney condemned the loss of american lives but he also seized on the attacks even before daybreak slamming the administration's response in what became a fierce back and forth between the two campaigns. romney then doubled down this morning. >> i spoke out when the key fact that i referred to was known which was that the embassy of the united states issued what appeared to be an apology for american principles. that was a mistake. and i believe that when a mistake is made of that significance you speak out. >> we start our coverage right now with nbc news chief for
hillary clinton and president obama promised swift action. >> today we mourn four more americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> the friendship between our countries born out of shared struggle will not be another casualty of this attack. a free and stable libya is still in america's interest and security. and we will not...
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in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed as a domestic policy debate, but -- and there are so many ways this is also domestic policy,
in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable...